If my memory is correct, this came out of an old Gateway
2000 computer. Except this had one of the PC Edge connectors for
the floppy disk instead of the pins and socket type connectors,
so I also needed one of the cables:
With a cable located, next was a computer that had a floppy disk
interface. Few systems built in the last 10 or so years had circuitry for
reading floppy disks. Fortunately (or unfortunately if you ask my wife)
I had an older system still functional waiting to become an organ donor - an
AMD Duron 750 MHz
system circa 2001 that still had a floppy interface and could be configured for a
variety of floppy disk types:
With all that, first try gave me nothing but various flavors of I/O
The good news: The system could tell it was reading a FAT disk, but
got errors when trying to read the main copy of the FAT table. This
system was running an old copy of Windows XP Home.
I tried a bunch of things all with no success - encouraged by the
fact the disk was recognized, but the disk itself was a 360K disk and
the disk drive was one of the "newer" 1.2 MB drives that could also read
the 360K disks. What I didn't know is if I was having a hardware problem
with the probably 25 year old floppy drive or data read errors off the
360K disk. I looked but I didn't have any 5.25" disks anymore having
disposed of them about 6 months prior during a garage cleaning party.
So I had no way to test my equipment to see if it worked or not.
Ideally I would try writing to a different disk and reading it back to
be sure I have working equipment, but with only the floppy with
important data on it writing to it wasn't a good option.
As an alternate path, I took the IBM PC apart and grabbed each of its
floppy drives to see if those would read the disk or not:
As a bit of encouragement, I tried to boot this data disk and got
Believe it or not, this is a very good message that brought with it
some good news! This message is actually contained in the first sector of the first
track on the disk - also known as the boot sector. It means the disk
is reading and that the drive is capable of reading the disk ... if
there is any data on the disk to read!
Unfortunately, I kept getting other errors. With various tools, I
still received errors reading and the disk appeared unreadable:
My client still had a copy of MS DOS 2.0 and the supplemental
programs disks, so I picked those up and continued the adventure.
Believe it or not, his 30+ year old MS-DOS 2.0 disk booted just fine
in my Duron 750 system and when I put the data
disk in and did a directory, the system struggled but eventually came up
At last, a directory!
But still missing sectors and disk read errors ... The pattern of the
directory and where it paused made me think it wasn't able to read the
main FAT table but after failing switched to the alternate FAT table. I
also guessed that the more modern systems weren't set up to read that
2nd FAT table ... but I'm totally guessing here.
So the question is now what could I get (and which files were most
The client selected a few strategic files and I copied whatever data
was on them onto a 3.5" disk using my combination 5.25" / 3.5" drive.
There were a number of sector reading errors, and I couldn't tell if it
got any data or not. When that copied disk was moved to a
modern system, it didn't display any files on it. Back in the main
system it showed files on the disk ... So the data was there
but no valid file system as far as a newer operating system could see. Some research
talked about a media descriptor byte in the BIOS parameter block ... but
changing this required writing to the disk and given its fragile state I
was unwilling to write any data to the disk except as a last resort. You
can read about that byte
I tried a few other hoops - actually bringing a Windows 95 drive back
to life as it supposidly could read disks without that media descriptor
set properly ... and a few other dead ends before settling on a recovery
strategy that would give me data.
Using a tool that reads every sector and writes it into a virtual
floppy disk format, after copying the strategic files of interest to the
3.5" disk the entire disk was copied to a VFD (virtual floppy disk) file ... and then any text
strings from that file were extracted with a program called
'strings.exe' -- and that file was sent to the client ...Success!!
Here is a snip from the strings in the file:
You can see the boot sector's 'Invalid System Disk' and 'Replace the
disk, then press any key' strings. Then strings with the names of the
files, and then the first strings from the file called 'MOVIES'.
Lastly, here is the floppy with data and a copies of MS-DOS 2.0:
I love it when a plan comes together!
Data recovered, I put the PC back together again and had to snap a
picture of it for fun which you can see
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